Tuesday 17 July 2007

The answer lies in the meeting of 1999 ...

"...It is therefore proposed that the portion of Lot Pt 11 currently reserved as Public Open Space be zoned to Residential “B” (R30) in accordance with the surrounding land in order to remove the boundaries between zones and thus provide flexibility in the ultimate subdivision design. The area finally set aside for recreation purposes shall then be reserved when the subdivision has occurred.

In this regard it shall be noted that the normal subdivisional process is for land vested with the local authority for recreation purposes to be reserved by way of an omnibus amendment to the Scheme after the subdivision has occurred and thus the precise boundaries of the recreation reserve defined. The above would in no way relinquish the developer from the obligation to provide the normal public open space land area..."

from the minutes of the meeting in 1999

So way back then it was decided that the boundaries would be defined once the development had occurred, they would change the zoning of the area, meanwhile we are given the opportunity to comment, after the event? Well to bad if I was to say "no don't do it, it will kill the lake and wildlife will disappear", but wait it has, what is the point, the developer was given license to develop and use whatever portion they deemed necessary, now the development is right on top of the lake/drain, there is no buffer zone around it and the damage is done!

This amendment is really just about the zoning of the R80 section, the modifying of the boundary of the Local Open Space has been done, it's too late to comment on that.

Dying environment ...




What was just two years ago a lush lake/drain now is a dying drain, with the road now right up to the western side of the water, reeds are dying and wildlife is rarely seen, but at least we are being given the chance to comment on the boundary change, a bit late don't you think!

Modify the boundary ...



Amendment No. 75 to the Town Planning Scheme No. 6 starts off with "...modify the boundary of the Local Open Space Reserve on Towncentre Drive", but as you can see from the picture above, the boundary has already been moved, and building is well under way, yet we are being asked to comment on this, why, for what reason, the developer has already "modified the boundary" the answer lies in the minutes of the meeting held back in 1999!!!

More info supplied ...

Today we received another letter from COG council regarding the Amendment No. 75 to Town Planning Scheme No. 6, seems that several residents (myself included) have contacted the City to point out difficulty understanding the previous correspondence, this time some colour print outs of the existing and proposed zoning under the heading of "Map Amendment" have been supplied (these maps can be found by following the link below).

More info can be found on the COG site here

Soon to be zoned R80


The above pic is the section of Lot 9005 that the developers want rezoned to R80, in the background you can see the recently completed stage of the shopping center, in the foreground you can see the school bus stop, which is the only regular transport that passes this location, there is no regular bus service, only a couple of feeder services about 1km away, and their are no railway stations, unless the Thornlie Spur is suddenly diverted here?
This area should not justify rezoning to R80, yet the developers will probably get the Council's rubber stamp on this part of the amendment, no matter what public comment they receive.
The development will probably increase my houses value, so why should I care if they build here, after all I don't live directly opposite, and no houses actually front the land so why not...

Seeking public comment


We recently received a letter in the mail from the COG council concerning "... Amendment No. 75 to Town Planning Sceme No. 6 - modify the boundry of the Local Open Space Reserve on Towncentre Drive, Thornlie and rezone a portion of Lot 9005 Towncentre Drive, Thornlie from "Residential R30: and "District Centre" to "Residential R80" and asking for public comment."

Wednesday 11 July 2007

Updated Question Time and Statements

COG has updated it's Question time and Statement forms and the guidelines

these can be found here

Question Time for the Public at Council Meetings

Council Policy 5.4.21 titled “Question Time and Public Statements at Council Meetings” has been developed to provide an orderly process for the receipt of questions and public statements at Council Meetings and to ensure members of the public are afforded equal and fair opportunity to participate in the good governance of the district.

In accordance with Item 6 of Ordinary Council Meeting Agendas titled “Question Time for the Public and the Receiving of Public Statements”, a period of fifteen (15) minutes is allocated for questions with a further period of fifteen (15) minutes provided for statements from members of the public. To ensure an equal and fair opportunity is provided to address Council, a period of three (3) minutes per speaker will be allowed.

The person's speaking right is to be exercised prior to any matter which requires a decision to be made at the meeting.

Questions and statements are to be –

1. Presented in writing on the relevant form to the Chief Executive Officer prior to commencement of the meeting; and
2. Clear and concise.

Question Time

Please click here to access the prescribed “Question Time” form (available in Word or PDF format).

With the consent of the Presiding Member, members of the public have the opportunity to ask questions on any relevant Council Business at Item 6.1 “Question Time” of the Agenda, provided that the person has completed the prescribed form in full and submitted it in person to the Chief Executive Officer prior to commencement of the meeting at 7.30pm or via fax to the City of Gosnells 9398 2922 prior to 4.00pm on the day of that meeting.

At Item 6.1 “Question Time” of the Agenda, the Presiding Member will announce the person’s name, at which time they are required to stand and present their question(s) to the meeting.

Supporting Policy 5.4.21 is the following guideline relating to Question Time titled “Guidelines – Question Time for the Public”:

“Question Time is not a public forum for debate and making of public statements. The time is limited to a question and answer period only and questions should be clear and concise to enable an appropriate response.

All questions are to be submitted in writing to the Chief Executive Officer, on the form determined by that officer, prior to the commencement of the meeting.

Persons wishing to ask questions will be called upon in the order in which they lodged their question form with the Chief Executive Officer or his/her delegate.

Questions are to be directed to the Presiding Member who has the right to accept, reject, respond, or nominate a relevant Officer to respond to that question.

To enable all members of the public a fair and equal opportunity to participate in Question Time each person shall be provided, in the first instance, with the opportunity to ask a maximum of two questions.

After all interested persons have posed their allotted number of questions, the Presiding Member will then, where time permits, allow members of the public to sequentially ask one further question. This process will continue until the allotted time has expired.

An extension of Question Time will only be granted where all members of the public, who have submitted their questions in the prescribed manner, have not been afforded the opportunity to ask the initial allotment of two questions.

Questions submitted at the meeting, that are not answered on the night, will be responded to in writing by the appropriate officer.”

Day one ..

the following reply was given ...

Thankyou for your enquiry. Council meetings are conducted under the provisions of the City of Gosnells Standing Orders Local Law 2003, a co...